tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4006108502645191096.post5136901504124739153..comments2024-03-28T18:32:38.243-04:00Comments on Poseidon's Underworld: Deja View: "Gunsmoke" in the "Valley"Poseidon3http://www.blogger.com/profile/10465785002285422594noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4006108502645191096.post-80035413179063425552023-02-13T11:05:30.361-05:002023-02-13T11:05:30.361-05:00Gingerguy, I was utterly obsessed with Evans' ...Gingerguy, I was utterly obsessed with Evans' hair in the 2nd, 3rd & 4th seasons of "TBV." (In the earlier eps, there was a slight attempt at the period.) Not all of it was hers, just the way not all of it was hers in "Dynasty" either! At least not all the time. I should have linked to Hajji Baba, but didn't. Here is a beautiful transfer of it:<br /><br />https://ok.ru/video/4383009213134<br /><br />Shawny, get some rest, darlin'! ;-) Poseidon3https://www.blogger.com/profile/10465785002285422594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4006108502645191096.post-54913192013830521222023-02-12T04:22:15.727-05:002023-02-12T04:22:15.727-05:00I've never seen either of these shows but I...I've never seen either of these shows but I've seen the house in a movie before. The columns, the way the bluntly connect to the roof, and their thickness, made me think of more modern commercial architecture. But I can't remember the film. There was a major disaster like a flood or something. I'm probably wrong. Oh well. I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it. Shawnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00349063352632344096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4006108502645191096.post-42686884136740985112023-02-07T09:33:51.876-05:002023-02-07T09:33:51.876-05:00There is so much here and all I saw was Linda Evan...There is so much here and all I saw was Linda Evans' hair. That hair! So, so gorgoues. You have an amazing eye for detail. I think the makeup on Amanda Blake is really ghastly and nothing says whore in a stagecouch faster than those eyelashes. Hot guy and fun post. Hadji Baba looks like a scream. Might look for it after I finish "Queen Of Blood"Gingerguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17989371210392669145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4006108502645191096.post-25996349567831815902023-02-06T15:48:45.115-05:002023-02-06T15:48:45.115-05:00DJWildBill, prior to "Gunsmoke," Amanda ...DJWildBill, prior to "Gunsmoke," Amanda had a pretty wide variety of parts, but along the way she (mostly) became encased the role of Kitty. She probably would have had fun on an ep of "Bewitched!" <br /><br />Ptolemy1, of COURSE I have also seen that one! LOL Anything with calamity... I was pretty surprised to find out that in ALL those episodes of "Gunsmoke," Marshall Dillon kissed only one woman -- guest star Michael Learned. In one of the reunion movies, they parlayed that into her having had his CHILD! She even appeared in the telefilm. Thanks for the link about the mansion. Sad to know it's now demolished. (I'm betting your recollection about the columns is due to the fact that the painting used for "Night Gallery" clearly shows round ones, but the house in the episode is with the squares ones -- albeit, briefly seen and with even more vines on them that typically!!) And, yes, Ericson was SO erotic as Pan!!<br /><br />K Jenkins, so right about all those sets and streets...! Those homes of "Marcus Welby" and Darren and Samantha from "Bewitched" and so on... It's amazing how often they were utilized. I almost did a post about it before this one because I could swear that an episode of "Mannix" had the interior set (hallway, stairs, side room) from "The Big Valley" but VERY HEAVILY redressed in garish '70s decor! Somewhere else on my site (click the tab "Deja View") I show an episode of the great show "Ghost Story" that was filmed at Darren and Samantha's. Thanks!!<br /><br />Rick - LOL about Kitty and Lucy! That's about right, though...! I saw an interview with Bruce Dern (I had a roommate once who always called him "Dern Bruce") and how he was so disheartened to see a star of Bette's caliber being reduced to working on TV. But it happened to most all of them who still wished to work after the heat of their career in films had cooled. (And she did a lot of great TV work, particularly later on.) <br /><br />joel65913, I've gone on (and on) about it here, but "TBV" was just an obsession of mine when I discovered it in reruns as a preteen. My stepsister and I both adored it and would call one another to rehash the episodes. Sounds like we had similar experiences. It was on at 4:00pm in my town and I was there to watch it M-F! I have "Betrayal" on a cheapo DVD and I enjoyed it a lot! But I'm a sucker for those old 74-minute TV-movies. <br /><br />Dan - HA! The makeup counter... Maybe someone like Corabeth Godsey from "The Waltons" pushing the products? At the beginning of "TBV," Stanwyck and Evans had natural makeup, mostly, but man as it wore on they just went for it with the eyes and, in Linda's case, the hair. But that time period... I was watching "Laredo" over the weekend and I could NOT. BELIEVE. MY. EYES. when I saw a getup that Robert Wolders was wearing (without any irony.) Craziest outfit ever! <br /><br />josh, I often like to check out Burt, too. I think Burt had Native American blood in there somewhere (he also played an Indian cop called "Hawk" back in the day) and would often get quizzed on "Hollywood Squares" with associated questions until one day he got really pissed off about it. They dropped off after that...! Joan had a field day entering "Della" down that long, long staircase. So many older shows featured grand staircases like that and they made for some memorable sequences. Thanks!<br /><br />A, glad you liked this. I was gobsmacked by Kitty's lashes. At breakfast?! I didn't show it, but she had a scene in a yellow lace nightie/ensemble with her hair down and in a ribbon. Still slathered down in full makeup. The poor pillowcases...! ;-) Poseidon3https://www.blogger.com/profile/10465785002285422594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4006108502645191096.post-91154873185983011302023-02-06T13:34:57.914-05:002023-02-06T13:34:57.914-05:00The Davis/Blake comparison made me laugh out loud....The Davis/Blake comparison made me laugh out loud. <br /><br />Thanks for another great post, Poseidon!<br /><br />A.Ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12994860402022617403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4006108502645191096.post-16757330312011753692023-02-05T23:25:11.811-05:002023-02-05T23:25:11.811-05:00i've seen very few episodes of GUNSMOKE with t...i've seen very few episodes of GUNSMOKE with the exception of the black & white BURT REYNOLDS episodes where he played (i believe, a then controversial half breed indian???) a 'blacksmith', very cute/handsome/manly/sexy and most important - SHIRTLESS! :)<br /><br />on the other hand, i've seen every episode of THE BIG VALLEY multiple times - still LOVE it! :)<br /><br />as i'm sure you know and have probably pointed out many times, THE BIG VALLEY house, both the exterior & interior, are used many many many times in everybody's favorite, THE WILD WILD WEST and, if you've ever caught the JOAN CRAWFORD 1964/65 oddity called DELLA, you'll notice THE BIG VALLEY staircase, and only the staircase, prominently featured in JOAN'S house - DELLA was also a FOUR STAR production as was THE BIG VALLEY :) joshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16794012644627145503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4006108502645191096.post-53753105070408085582023-02-05T09:21:44.938-05:002023-02-05T09:21:44.938-05:00My family wasn’t into westerns. We loved all the v...My family wasn’t into westerns. We loved all the variety shows. When I do catch a bit of some old western, I always find myself imagining what the makeup counter “down to the mercantile” was like. “Got some mighty fine new eyeliner in from Kansas City, Miz Barkley!”<br /><br />So often I’ll see a prop or set in a TV show or movie and just know I’ve seen it elsewhere but, alas, I lack your file cabinet mind. Guess I’ll just have to keep scratching my head wondering, “ Now where else have I seen that?”Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01848827163648287162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4006108502645191096.post-76269179550174408772023-02-04T21:23:15.908-05:002023-02-04T21:23:15.908-05:00Another fun and informative post Poseidon!!
I was...Another fun and informative post Poseidon!!<br /><br />I was a casual Gunsmoke watcher when it was on, that is to say if nothing better was on and I remembered I'd tune in but not faithfully. However I ADORED The Big Valley!! I was too young when it was on initially to see it all the time but discovered it in reruns when I was in junior high. It ran just as I was getting home from school and I was glued to the set both out of fandom for those feisty Barkley's and as a way to avoid my homework for an extra hour!!! <br /><br />That makeup job on Amanda Blake is really something else! I have to wonder if that was her choice or the demands of the producers to make sure the audience remembered she was a "fallen woman". I recall watching a decent TV movie she made right after Gunsmoke went off the air called "Betrayal" and being surprised with her minimal makeup and a softer hairstyle how perhaps not youthful but fresh she looked. Of course the setting for that film was contemporary as opposed to the Old West but it made a world of difference.joel65913https://www.blogger.com/profile/14526657073681774683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4006108502645191096.post-1495442049501550142023-02-04T19:01:26.674-05:002023-02-04T19:01:26.674-05:00Hi Poseidon,
My brother is as big of a western fan...Hi Poseidon,<br />My brother is as big of a western fan as I am a classic movie fan!<br />Whenever I drop by, Gunsmoke, The Rifleman, or some other TV classic western is on... and we have a hoot riffing on the plots, acting, and guest stars.<br /><br />I've often joked that latter seasons Miss Kitty and Lucille Ball had the same makeup artist... wigs neon orange, the eyebrows got higher, the false eyelashes bigger, pancake makeup more pronounced, and lip line in another county!<br /><br />PS, my brother says the only guest villain that scared him was when Bette Davis starred, kidnapping Miss Kitty out of revenge! And yes, Bruce Dern was trotted out in a TV spot once again as a drooling weirdo!<br /><br />Cheers and thanks for the fun post!<br />Rick http://ricksrealreel.blogspot.com/https://www.blogger.com/profile/14243899548141583461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4006108502645191096.post-56943311986311691492023-02-04T16:55:02.070-05:002023-02-04T16:55:02.070-05:00I never had much interest in watching Gunsmoke ( t...I never had much interest in watching Gunsmoke ( though my parents watched it ) but I enjoyed watching reruns of Big Valley when I was a kid. I especially like the episodes that featured the dynamic Victoria, hunky Heath and beautiful Audra. Linda Evans really did look like a 1960s Barbie doll come to life in seasons 3 and 4! Too bad they never gave Miss Kitty the updated and anachronistic make-up and hair styles that Victoria and Audra were given. B<br />ecause Miss Kitty really did start to look a lot like Baby Jane Hudson! I also recall Miss Kitty's saloon can be seen in a couple of Big valley episodes. On that same note the "Brady Bunch" house can be seen in episodes of "Mannix". And Samantha and Darrin Stephens, Jeannie and Tony Nelson and the Partridge Family all lived in the same neighborhood! In outdoor scenes you can see that Shirley Partridge lived next door to Tony Nelson. And Samantha lived down the street! LOL I guess the producers of these programs didn't realize that these shows would live forever in reruns and sharp eyed viewers would see these same sets and exteriors were used over and over again!K Jenkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08252590932198304053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4006108502645191096.post-30214554078289946612023-02-04T16:13:43.806-05:002023-02-04T16:13:43.806-05:00Oh, and Ericson! What a fabulous Pan he made in ...Oh, and Ericson! What a fabulous Pan he made in "7 Faces of Dr. Lao"! Talk about childhood memories!Ptolemy1https://www.blogger.com/profile/04334386659240438250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4006108502645191096.post-43654190667717286962023-02-04T16:04:45.513-05:002023-02-04T16:04:45.513-05:00Love! I thought you were onto the episode where d...Love! I thought you were onto the episode where dear Kitty is in a stagecoach and the thing capsizes on her out in the middle of nowhere. I loved that episode as a kid because, well, it crashes. EARLY on in the series Blake was beautiful, before the beat back drag queen era later on. Surely that face would get scuffed and muffed during the perils of the West. Perhaps take on a sepia tone as the day wore on, hahah. Miss K did love her Marshal with a capital D! Looking around I found a great article on the Barkley family mansion, who knew "Gilligan's Island" was practically in the back yard? It did trigger the original "Night Gallery" film episode "The Cemetery" memories with me (it also has my beloved Roddy in it, natch) but I could swear the columns in that episode are round, maybe they could swap them out or wrap them. Anyway, here's to Miss Kitty for paving the way for all successful drag queens today, we must pay homage to our roots! Cheers and thank you!<br /><br /> <br />https://www.metv.com/stories/the-barkley-mansion-from-the-big-valley-turned-up-all-over-classic-television<br />Ptolemy1https://www.blogger.com/profile/04334386659240438250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4006108502645191096.post-88748072047798063022023-02-04T16:03:59.143-05:002023-02-04T16:03:59.143-05:00When I saw that first closeup of Amanda Blake, I i...When I saw that first closeup of Amanda Blake, I immediately thought, "Who did her makeup? Baby Jane Hudson?"-- and then cracked up when I scrolled down and saw you had exactly the same thought!<br /><br />DJWildBill is right about a resemblance to Agnes Moorehead as Endora, but I also see a touch of Yvonne de Carlo's Lily Munster makeup as well. I suppose some of it is just that eye makeup was pretty heavy in general in the late '60s, particularly the false eyelashes. (Though usually not to this level on older women.)<br /><br />OTOH, while basically the female lead, "Miss Kitty" *was* supposed to be a saloon owner, and it's been said that a lot of post-Code films and television series substituted "saloon gals" and "saloon owners" for prostitutes and madams. So yeah, she was probably not exactly an exemplar of "quiet good taste" in dress and grooming.<br /><br />And having called attention to the particular decoration of that one lacy blouse she wore to the dining table, I'm surprised you resisted calling it "tat for tits." (But I can't...)<br /><br />I always enjoy seeing Lisa Gerritsen turn up in old episodes of TV shows! She appeared in so many places at the time (sometimes in multiple one-shot roles on the same series over several years) that I'm surprised she didn't just pop up in THE BIG VALLEY along with the sets! <br /><br />Thanks for another great post, Poseidon! I *always* love anything you post with reused costumes, props, or sets! Love to all, and be safe and well, everyone!hschttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07788554330108647969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4006108502645191096.post-4910237351383082132023-02-03T15:25:11.666-05:002023-02-03T15:25:11.666-05:00Well, now that you've brought it to my attenti...Well, now that you've brought it to my attention, Amanda Blake does look too ornate for a breakfast table and her makeup seems to be a nod to Agnes Moorehead on Bewitched. I can see her playing Samantha's aunt: Endora's younger sister Jane.DJWildBillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14416086324541344898noreply@blogger.com