tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4006108502645191096.post1960264795903816223..comments2024-03-29T08:40:55.320-04:00Comments on Poseidon's Underworld: Oh, "Man(dingo)"....Poseidon3http://www.blogger.com/profile/10465785002285422594noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4006108502645191096.post-22371171562025399752019-10-15T19:23:17.823-04:002019-10-15T19:23:17.823-04:00Sorry Kevin, but Susan George caused a trembling i...Sorry Kevin, but Susan George caused a trembling in my trousers on many occasions.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16588622594740094188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4006108502645191096.post-66358774453260813002017-03-20T10:10:26.844-04:002017-03-20T10:10:26.844-04:00I have to say seeing "Mandingo" on the b...I have to say seeing "Mandingo" on the big screen is a completely different experience than seeing it on television. Ms George's teeth were 6"-8" each on the big screen and very visible, (So was Perry King's penis). The theater that played "Mandingo" was an older downtown theater that had once screened "The Ten Commandments"in its first run. None of the local multiplexes or fancy theaters would show "Mandingo". In the 70's it was unusual for a movie to play in a first run theater longer than 2-3 weeks. Mandingo played for almost the entire summer. With midnight shows added on the weekends that were mostly sold out. Also after seeing "Mandingo" again when Legend put it on DVD the acting (except from Ms George) was very well done including and especially the supporting players.Kevin Keanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09346305724651685474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4006108502645191096.post-48516453943313791362017-03-20T07:44:33.269-04:002017-03-20T07:44:33.269-04:00Yes, petercox, I agree of course! And so often tha...Yes, petercox, I agree of course! And so often that footage is incorporated into the film in a way that just skirts actual nudity or cuts away in the dick, er, nick of time! LOL Oh, to have been an editor... And I have seen "The Ballad of Andy Crocker!" I got it on a $1 DVD over a decade ago. I remember Agnes skeet-shooting during her one cameo scene (and her daughter was... Joey Hetherton!!) Thanks!Poseidon3https://www.blogger.com/profile/10465785002285422594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4006108502645191096.post-80407876621339298692017-03-19T22:24:04.389-04:002017-03-19T22:24:04.389-04:00@poseidon. if any of that two hours of deleted foo...@poseidon. if any of that two hours of deleted footage is perry or ken naked, i am all for it. i wish i could access all the extraneous footage that is shot when there is male nudity on set. it was only recently that i discovered that often copious amounts of male nudity is filmed even if it's never used in the movie when it's released for distribution. one movie that comes to mind is altered states. there was far more nude footage of william hurt than what we saw in the film. also there was more nude footage filmed of david mcnaughton in an american werewolf in london than what we saw in the finished product.<br /><br />you mentioned lee majors. i still can't believe that lee affirmed as recently as two years ago that he was eager to play the jon voight role in midnight cowboy. lee was in his prime in 1969 and it would have been a treat for the ages to see him pulled out of a pickup truck bare-assed naked. i admit the thought of lee getting gangbanged doesn't thrill me, but i would have loved to have seen him in a homoerotic relationship. well, maybe not with dustin hoffman, but definitely with someone like al pacino or robert deniro.<br /><br />one last note, i had no idea there was a film that featured motown's marvin gaye and lee majors as best friends adjusting to life after vietnam. lee is pretty good in the movie, but as much as i love him, marvin is so stiff and he seems really afraid. lee does his best to carry him, but marvin seems to have the worst case of stage fright which is so odd. did i also mention that agnes moorehead is also in the movie as lee's almost mother-in-law?petercox97https://www.blogger.com/profile/05818754297522029991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4006108502645191096.post-46598376060073410202017-03-19T16:22:24.615-04:002017-03-19T16:22:24.615-04:00Kevin, Susan did have very unusual teeth (which I ...Kevin, Susan did have very unusual teeth (which I opted not to zero in on in this lengthy post!) The front ones were not really curved, but almost straight across, making the side ones look protruded by comparison. Hilarious that someone felt the need to blurt out their reaction that way in a crowded theater. But I must also say that while watching this recently, Perry's teeth were fine, but not altered the way virtually all celebrity teeth are now. Just normal teeth with little spaces/imperfections while not everyone must have zoom-bleached piano keys in order to nab a leading role!<br /><br />My "funny in my underwear" guy was Lee Majors on "The Big Valley" and "The Six Million Dollar Man." Loved hearing yours and petercox's remembrances.<br /><br />One other thing I meant to mention in this huge post, but didn't, is that the movie was nearly 4 hours long when put together and so it was then cut by close to half for release!! It would be amazing to see more of the scenes that got snipped. Of course, it also might have reaalllyy dragged at the longer length rather than having an epic sweep sort of feel.Poseidon3https://www.blogger.com/profile/10465785002285422594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4006108502645191096.post-80815025366380515642017-03-19T14:48:40.813-04:002017-03-19T14:48:40.813-04:00@kevin. made me feel funny in my underwear. i reme...@kevin. made me feel funny in my underwear. i remember that sensation as a kid when i first saw lloyd bridges in reruns of sea hunt. it was the first time i had seen an almost naked man on tv and i couldn't understand how they could show an almost naked man everyday in the afternoon, but i enjoyed it.petercox97https://www.blogger.com/profile/05818754297522029991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4006108502645191096.post-34612995289036798042017-03-18T18:26:08.278-04:002017-03-18T18:26:08.278-04:00I recall seeing this in a packed theater in Omaha ...I recall seeing this in a packed theater in Omaha Nebraska summer of 1975. When Susan George came on screen and began speaking someone in the audience said "whats wrong with her teeth ?" and the whole theater cracked up laughing. She looked very snaggle toothed in the movie and had a lilting British accent on and off in the movie as did James Mason. The sight of Ken Norton and Perry King made me feel funny in my underwear. But Susan George made me sick to my stomach, she was just awful.Kevin Keanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09346305724651685474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4006108502645191096.post-2354222056505518922017-03-17T15:58:25.331-04:002017-03-17T15:58:25.331-04:00Poseidon, thanks for keeping me honest.Poseidon, thanks for keeping me honest.petercox97https://www.blogger.com/profile/05818754297522029991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4006108502645191096.post-80213915648649658582017-03-17T10:30:41.321-04:002017-03-17T10:30:41.321-04:00Shoot! I meant to add, but forgot, that if anythin...Shoot! I meant to add, but forgot, that if anything good came out of films like "Mandingo," "Drum" (which I haven't seen in ages) and "Goodbye Uncle Tom" (which I've never seen), perhaps it is that they sparked an interest in the subject matter which then helped pave the way for more insightful and legitimate projects like "Roots." (Even if some of Alex Haley's novel was - by his own admission - plagiarized and fabricated.) So many people sat and watched that miniseries goggled-eyed with horror and I know that many of them had no real idea at all beforehand how abjectly cruel and awful it was to be a slave. They'd been so used to decades of more genteel cinematic depictions which appeared more like servants and maids. So there's that, at least, anyway.Poseidon3https://www.blogger.com/profile/10465785002285422594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4006108502645191096.post-66573423523498198202017-03-17T10:20:17.410-04:002017-03-17T10:20:17.410-04:00Gingerguy, I didn't really sense TOO much abou...Gingerguy, I didn't really sense TOO much about penis size other than the one comment that King makes and the fact that the German widow is checking Norton out with relish, but as far as the "fear of destruction" thing, I'd say yes, but only when it comes to black men/white women. King has sired all sorts of kids in the movie! I agree very much with you about good looking boxers! Save it for the fuglies! LOL I have never seen "Black Snake." I can only imagine....<br /><br />Dave, I understand completely. We each have our own threshold for what we can tolerate viewing and listening to. I don't know about everyone, but I can say for myself that over time I have become desensitized to things - meaning, things I saw as a youth that deeply bruised my psyche or scorched my corneas I can now take with more ease. Not sure that's a good thing!! (Although even now I have not seen and will not see such things as "Saw" or "Hostel" or any sequels of them.) I can also tell you, fairly off topic, but maybe not entirely, that I have made a personal decision not to watch any more seasons of "American Horror Story." As much as I enjoy the acting on the show (very much at times!), I just can no longer reconcile sitting down to an evening's "entertainment" of slicing, dicing, gore, impaling and - more importantly - an overall atmosphere of extreme cruelty for no real reason or purpose other than to shock. I just don't need anything like that in my life at this stage. <br /><br />Petercox, I really appreciate your commentary, insight and responses to this subject. I didn't know about Ali (and could totally see O.J. doing this!) As for Bo Derek, I howled at your assessment of her accomplishments. I watched "Django Unchained" a few years ago and remember being very captivated by it while it was on, but am ashamed to say I recall almost nothing at all about it now save Jamie Foxx's "Bonanza" inspired clothing!! It definitely didn't stick to the ribs the way so many other things I've seen did. And, yes, young David Soul was an angel. But he turned rather unappealing after a while (and my mother forbid his name to be mentioned in our house, calling him a "wife-beater!") Debbi Morgan was indeed about 19, so you were on to something there! <br /><br />One thing, though. It was not Brenda Sykes who accused Jim Brown of tossing her off a balcony. They did film "Black Gunn" together and did have a relationship, but the only "scandal" between them was him finding her on the floor of her living room almost dead of a deliberate overdose. There was a model named Eva Bohn-Chin who fell from a his balcony and it was suspected that he pushed her, though he said she fell running to escape the room when the police were called over their arguing. There was also a Brenda Ayres (age 18!) who accused him of assault and of fathering her child. God knows he had several accusations and incidents (and did admit to slapping various women), but none that I know of with Brenda. Poseidon3https://www.blogger.com/profile/10465785002285422594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4006108502645191096.post-80321375235318522282017-03-16T17:46:11.578-04:002017-03-16T17:46:11.578-04:00As a person of color, I have pronounced ambivalenc...As a person of color, I have pronounced ambivalence about Mandingo, but it occurs to me that Ben Carson based on his recent cringeworthy comments may watch it without batting a lash since first and foremost no male on male couplings transpire amidst all the taboo probing. I think the movie mostly rides the crest of the wave from notoriety of the source material. Yes, violence galore in all of its lurid spectacle dominates the movie, but sexuality, certainly black male sexuality, is rather muted. Ken Norton is overdressed on the auction block. The movie does not flinch from gratuitous violence, but male sexual objectification is sparse. Even the much ballyhooed scene with Norton is ultimately tame. I giggle at the thought that the producers had the brassballed temerity to approach Muhammad Ali for the titular role even though during that time he was under the vicelike influence of the Nation of Islam. Ali's casting would have been incredulous and ironic simultaneously. For some reason, I also could see OJ Simpson in the role of Mandingo. OJ certainly was not shy about accepting the role in the Klansman. It would have taken very little coaxing to convince him to roll around on top of a pretty naked white woman. Truth be told, Simpson did get his shot at inhabiting the loincloth of a mandingo when he appeared in the tony Roots ratings juggernaut a year after Mandingo was released.<br /><br />The even more wretched sequel to Mandingo, Drum, half-heartedly flirted with the idea of male on male sex, but retreated early in the film. Norton's fabulous physique is even more shamefully squandered in Drum although Roger E. Mosley gets to drop trou in a full frontal. Unfortunately, I've had more imaginings about Tom Selleck naked than I ever harbored about Roger E. Mosley. Another interesting tidbit about Drum is the fact that John Derek nixed his wife Bo making her screen debut in the film due to his adamant aversion of her being featured next to a male actor of color. Of course, I understand Derek's reticence to have his wife sexually exploited onscreen before her demure, Oscar worthy turns in Ten, Tarzan the Ape Man, and Bolero.<br /><br />I have avoided Quentin Tarantino's Django like the plague. The only movie I can stomach by Quentin is Reservoir Dogs and that's because despite the ultra-violence, Harvey Keitel and Tim Roth are just so damned appealing. Oddly enough, James Mason's onscreen abuse of young boys in Mandingo presages his role of chickenhawk pimp for his undead master in the CBS horror miniseries, Salem's Lot. In his prime, David Soul was almost as beautiful as Perry King, but King is a silver daddy nonpareil. I will never understand how some intrepid photographer never scored thousands of rolls of nude footage of King before he made his theatrical debut. What a waste. Poor Brenda Sykes. She was treated far better as Perry King's mistress in Mandingo than she was in real life by Jim Brown who Sykes accused of tossing her off of a balcony. Debbi Morgan seems scandalously too young to have been old enough to be featured nude in Mandingo. Then again, Mario Van Peebles made his nude debut at eleven in his father's feature film. Come to think of it, Haywood Nelson of What's Happening fame was featured nude as a youth from a movie scene on the now defunct Campfire Video site a decade or so ago. <br /><br />I sometimes wonder how i would cast Mandingo if it were ill-advisedly remade today. I think in the titular role I would choose NFL player Tyrann Mathieu or Dwayne Johnson; Charlie Weber for Perry King; and Julian McMahon to spice up James Mason's role. What the hell, why not have three or four gorgeous leads of color portraying Mandingo in the buff? petercox97https://www.blogger.com/profile/05818754297522029991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4006108502645191096.post-4029908795736106652017-03-16T14:01:06.444-04:002017-03-16T14:01:06.444-04:00The only thing I know about this is that I was des...The only thing I know about this is that I was desperate to see it as a teenager when it came out. Of course I wouldn't have been allowed to see it, but I tried to work every angle, i.e. sneaking in, or going to a different drive-in movie and watching a different screen. :-)<br /><br />Now I don't think I could take it. The beauty onscreen would come at the cost of the ugliness onscreen.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10845967694366470260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4006108502645191096.post-43563751195349058662017-03-16T10:01:46.252-04:002017-03-16T10:01:46.252-04:00Oy! this one is a real cesspool. I haven't se...Oy! this one is a real cesspool. I haven't seen it in years but went through a Blaxploitation phase and covered the dubious slave genre in that period. Fascinating that the book had been around for so long, though I can't see this movie being made in the 1960's. Besides the horror that is human slavery, the titillating and exploitive side of this movie seems to focus on stereotypes about penis size (or is that just me?) and the perceived fear of eventual destruction that comes from mixing the races. I can see where Quentin Tarantino could use it as lurid source material to examine violent themes.<br />Ken Norton is just gorgeous. I remember his name but thought he was a football player. I always think it's a shame when fighters are handsome as they literally take such a beating. <br />Falconhurst reminds me of the creepy mansion in "The Beguiled" another disturbing movie about the antebellum era.<br />This movie reminds me a lot of "Black Snake". Another charmer about slavery and sex set in Barbados. Directed by Russ Meyer (and there goes any credibility) it's pretty filthy in every sense. The lead, Anouska Hempel, eventually became a LADY and bought back the film rights, and it isn't shown on British television. I bet James Mason wished he could do the same with "Mandingo". Thanks for this Poseidon, this is tawdry but a real time capsule.Gingerguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17989371210392669145noreply@blogger.com