tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4006108502645191096.post1161407202487033545..comments2024-03-27T08:00:18.425-04:00Comments on Poseidon's Underworld: As We Were Saying...Poseidon3http://www.blogger.com/profile/10465785002285422594noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4006108502645191096.post-83484483637362658372019-10-28T08:33:51.782-04:002019-10-28T08:33:51.782-04:00Brian, I nearly did a tribute to "Lylah Clare...Brian, I nearly did a tribute to "Lylah Clare" here, but the whole thing was just too crazy even for me to deal with. LOL It's a very wrongheaded movie (and yet strangely compelling to watch. ONCE.) I do have a profile on Coral Browne here, though... :-)Poseidon3https://www.blogger.com/profile/10465785002285422594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4006108502645191096.post-37353184811400449372019-10-26T21:38:08.744-04:002019-10-26T21:38:08.744-04:00Hi Poseidon, I ended up at this post because TCM r...Hi Poseidon, I ended up at this post because TCM ran The Legend of Lylah Claire at 5 or so this morning while I was waking up to get to the laundry by 6. I figured you had done a whole review of this one but this was the closest I could get! I was able to catch the middle portion of the movie and walking away, the biggest performance I remember is the staircase in Peter Finch's house! Hopefully the set designer got nominated! <br /><br />But really, there was the scene where they dubbed someone else's voice for Kim's when Lylah was reading Coral Browne for filth at the director's party, in front of his staircase of course, and I thought I'd stumbled on some movie with poor Kim's voice dubbed by the same person who did the voice for the child in the Exorcist! Later she did the same thing at the Brown Derby to Ernest Borgnine as the financial director of the proposed movie about the real Lylah Claire. And she still sounded like she was in the Exorcist! But the financial guy forked over the money so he was hooked!<br /><br />Then after being read for filth, Coral stands up with her 2 safety gays at her side and unclicks her leg contraptions so she can hobble-walk and I thought I stumbled on Young Frankenstein! LOL!!! OMG I am imagining her telling her friends about that scene!<br /><br />And then the best part, Lylah and her director, Peter Finch take a stroll through the garden and she's in her navy polka dot hip huggers and her Maidenform bra! With a scarf draped around her neck for propriety! Talk about waking up at 5:15 am! LOL!<br /><br />As I mentioned, the staircase was the only one who came out of that movie with some indignity intact! <br /><br />However, reading Gingerguys comments above I have to agree about David Niven. I liked him in A Matter of Life and Death (though probably because of the movie as a whole, not so much his performance) and Separate Tables. Otherwise he seemed too dry, like he needed moisturizer from the inside out! And of course he will always be remembered for uttering the perfect response when the streaker came out on stage while he was presenting an award at the Oscars. <br /><br />BrianBBrianBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04971543273687192896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4006108502645191096.post-41030091525479553082017-04-18T08:27:04.727-04:002017-04-18T08:27:04.727-04:00Yesterday morning I wrote a H-U-G-E response to al...Yesterday morning I wrote a H-U-G-E response to all of you and today it isn't here, so I guess it didn't take somehow...! :::sigh:::<br /><br />Gingerguy, I don't know for certain if I ever read The Moon's a Balloon. I think I got a paperback of his second memoir Bring on the Empty Horses and it was before i was very knowledgeable about old Hollywood people, so I sort of skimmed through it. I do recall that Niven was accused of taking all these stories and acting as if he was there or they happened with him and many of them didn't! He's not an actor who ever really spoke to me very much. As for Aldrich, he also directed "Sodom and Gomorrah!" Not that it lived up to its name... I didn't see "Phoenix" until maybe six or seven years ago and I was impressed. I thought I'd hate it, but I didn't at all. Eleanor Parker's costumes in "Interrupted Melody" are chiefly seen as she's performing long opera numbers. Otherwise, she has a short '50s 'do. But I enjoy the movie in any case and it's fun to see her done up as a brunette, redhead, white blonde, etc... and in the flashy costumes. As for Lanchester, I think it just rubbed her the wrong way, whatever her husband's proclivities, that he was so obsessed with O'Hara, who was the diametric opposite of her, and devoted a lot of energy to building her career up. The animosity lasted a long time!<br /><br />Andrea, that accident that took Primmie's life was just bizarre and so sudden/freak. She opened a "closet" door to hide in the dark, but it was actually a steep set of steps to the basement and she fell to her death. Very sad. Novak had a lot to prove early on and probably rubbed some people who underestimated her the wrong way. I don't know that she ever proved it, though she is beloved by many. She left the biz with a fair amount of repressed baggage and anger, but I'm glad she's found a new sort of happiness in the wilderness with her husband and dogs. I enjoy O'Brien a lot, but I can also see why some people are annoyed by her. I must say I don't have any use for her as an adult actress, though. I felt that she was rather stunning as a child performer. Palance was so intense and downright scary at times!<br /><br />Joel, I chose the photos of Barnes and Oberon that are maybe a year apart and even with Barnes being 8 years older, I think she looks better! She didn't need all the crazy procedures that Oberon underwent (though I am obsessed with Merle as an older actress!) Barnes is strangely unknown and underappreciated I think. I first saw her when checking out early versions of "Last of the Mohicans" and "The Three Musketeers" and she was a very diverse performer. Olivier LOVED to change his appearance for roles, even ones that didn't require it. I can relate to that. I have acted in about 40 plays/musicals and I am not comfortable at all if I just look like myself. I have to do something to augment the canvas in order to inhabit another character. I think he wanted to be in another skin when on stage or in a movie. The thing about Hunnicut is that while she says it's "better" now because things are more flexible and actors don't have to be as grand or as exacting... but who knows who she is or where she is?! Parker did land three Oscar nominations and was popular for close to forty years. When the star system diminished, we wound up with many dispensable performers who had little support (and in some cases training) to see them through the long haul. Hunnicut was undeniably beautiful, but her career petered out rather swiftly. <br /><br />Thanks, A! We're down into the "P's" now, so there aren't too, too many to go!Poseidon3https://www.blogger.com/profile/10465785002285422594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4006108502645191096.post-37187349553538718952017-04-17T21:35:16.556-04:002017-04-17T21:35:16.556-04:00I read the Davis comment about Olivier as a comple...I read the Davis comment about Olivier as a complement. Another great post, Poseidon!Ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12994860402022617403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4006108502645191096.post-14105538040240187242017-04-14T21:03:32.214-04:002017-04-14T21:03:32.214-04:00Wonderous as always Poseidon! I'd often heard ...Wonderous as always Poseidon! I'd often heard and read that Kim Novak could be a prickly personality borne of a mixture of insecurity, a desire for privacy and conversely when challenged a will of iron. Strange how people with a passion for solitude are often drawn to such a public profession.<br /><br />I always loved Binnie Barnes! She had a distinctive way of speaking which fit her gestures so well, she could play the snooty bitch and the bubbly gadabout with equal ease. I recently saw a rerun of her guest appearance on Johnny Carson when she was promoting her last film 40 Carats and she was a charmer, down to earth, funny and wonderfully direct. Relating to her quote about Merle Binnie offered up her age during the interview without hesitation. Then again she had no reason for it to concern her, she was long and happily married to an extremely successful and wealthy producer and only worked when it tickled her fancy so the issues other actresses might have had didn't apply to her.<br /><br />I was never terribly enamored of Margaret O'Brien outside of Meet Me in St. Louis. She came across as so precious. I'm not surprised that she didn't make a successful jump to adult stardom. Unlike Judy Garland, Deanna Durbin, Natalie Wood and Elizabeth Taylor the qualities that made her stand out as a kid faded away as she matured much like Patty McCormack and Peggy Ann Garner.<br /><br />I don't see the Bette Davis quote about Olivier as being particularly derogatory. He did often work to subsume himself into his parts and unlike Bette could at times disappear into a role. He was distinctive but not as much so as Davis who might be able to be varied but was always Bette Davis. She seemed to admire his ability to do something she couldn't.<br /><br />I wouldn't imagine anyone enjoyed working on The Silver Chalice, Paul Newman certainly didn't!, but love the quote from Virginia Mayo. Palance seemed like he'd be a different sort of guy who it might present a challenge to be around.<br /><br />Wonderful quote from Gayle Hunnicut. If I'm reading it right she nicely says that Eleanor Parker was something of an Iron Butterfly, a gracious lady who got things done by setting an expectation and with a certain air of a steel hand in a velvet glove made them happen. Which is perfect since that's always how I imagined she and many of those other grand dames of classic cinema would conduct themselves. Delicious!joel65913https://www.blogger.com/profile/14526657073681774683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4006108502645191096.post-34958762070430262792017-04-14T17:51:54.579-04:002017-04-14T17:51:54.579-04:00Surprising take on David Niven, Gingerguy. From wh...Surprising take on David Niven, Gingerguy. From what I understand, his later years were fairly shitty which is when I presume he wrote his autobiography. His first wife died in a strange accident while playing hide and seek (!) and his second marriage was chocked full of dra-mah and lots of drinking. I do like him in The Moon Is Blue. Truly an underrated film with all around great performances and a somewhat tragic leading lady.<br /><br />I've only heard a few quibbles about Kim Novak being difficult. What did that woman do that irritated people so? I need the vintage gossip! I have her box set and I gotta say, she ain't Joan Crawford but she's not as awful as some people make her out to be. I think she just took the wrong parts far too often - I mean, Jeanne Eagels?!? The hell were you thinking, Kim? She got a lot of flack last time she showed up the Oscars with her "new" face. Yikes!<br /><br />Was Bette Davis physically incapable of saying anything nice about anyone? Sheesh! Oh, and her homophobic, hate filled daughter has new gossip about Mummy - now she's saying Bette practiced witchcraft! Oh BD, if that were true, she would have turned you into a hateful old miserable toad years ago. Oh, wait.....<br /><br />Margaret O'Brien - I want to like her, I really do but the way she talked as a child. Her mouth did this weird thing where she showed all her teeth or something. I can't explain it but I can't not focus on it. Oddly, she doesn't do it now! <br /><br />Never cared for Jack Palance though he was sufficiently creepy in Sudden Fear. Didn't he go on a misogynistic rant on a talk show once? Even as a kid, I thought he seemed like an asshole. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4006108502645191096.post-61920229408544327712017-04-13T15:42:26.806-04:002017-04-13T15:42:26.806-04:00oops...forgot to mention Elsa Lanchester on Mauree...oops...forgot to mention Elsa Lanchester on Maureen O'Hara. I wonder at the context but it almost seems like jealousy. She puzzles me. From some things I have read she knew her husband was gay and always did from London in the 30's when they met. Then there was a later autobiography where she laments not having children and blames him for it. This quote seems from the latter camp. Hmmm.Gingerguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17989371210392669145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4006108502645191096.post-10654221494569438462017-04-13T15:37:22.529-04:002017-04-13T15:37:22.529-04:00As you were saying...These are fun, and provide in...As you were saying...These are fun, and provide insight into personalities I am fascinated by. Starting with one of the few exceptions- David Niven, ugh, he is the greatest argument for not learning too much about someone you like. I found "The Moon Is A Balloon" one of his autobiographies, in my building's trash room and read it. Every other page was a homophobic rant of some sort. It turned out, very sadly, that he had been molested in boarding school. He seemed to focus that anger on anyone gay he ever worked with, using choice words. I have trouble watching anything he is in.<br />Howled with laughter at the consensus on Kim Novak. As a matter of fact I didn't know that Robert Aldrich did "Lylah Clare" which is one of my all time favorite bad movies,(she should have gotten something for that performance, maybe acting lessons). I looked him up and the oeuvre of Aldrich is very startling. He did Flight Of The Phoenix, Baby Jane, Charlotte and The Killing Of Sister George, along with Lylah. Most impressive indeed and could be a gay history course at some college.<br />Loved the choice of photos for Florence of Arabia. That scene is so vile, with Jose Ferrar giving poor Peter's lily white skin the wrong kind of attention.<br />I must say Eleanor Powell looks very compelling in that Mata Hari outfit so will look up that movie, and nice to hear another actor say something flattering about her. <br />Gingerguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17989371210392669145noreply@blogger.com